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From: les@MCS.COM (Leslie Mikesell)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc
Subject: Re: how to get DOS kermit c source code?
Date: 28 Oct 1995 11:14:10 -0500
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In article <jamess.39.002D9FB7@winternet.com>,
JamesSturdevant <jamess@winternet.com> wrote:
>In article <46hf3j$li3@Mercury.mcs.com> les@MCS.COM (Leslie Mikesell) writes:
>>But you keep missing the fact that not only can't someone improve
>>kermit and sell it, they also can't improve it and give it away
>>as has happened with lots of other software.
>
>That isn't true. In the past few years, I have added a number of features to
>MS-Kermit. I sent them back to Columbia and they are now included for all to
>use.
Yes, you can give it back to Columbia. You can't give the modified copies
to your friends.
>The point is that if you have an idea to improve Kermit, suggest it, or code
>it yourself and send it in. If it is a good idea, the chances of it being
>selected are good. If it's not, the Kermit team will explain why they cannot
>use it.
I've done that. You'll find my name among the large list of contributors
to the unix version. I still can't give copies to the people who need
it. I can't count on kermit being available on other systems I call
because it can't be included in distributions. I probably won't do
it again.
>One of the things that has kept Kermit strong and improving over the years is
>that there is a single point for Kermit distribution, keeping it consistant.
>If you read the notes from Frank on how difficult it is to code things for the
>various versions of UNIX (or is it Unix or unix...) you can see that see that
>having multiple distributions, each with their own idiosyncrasies, is not a
>good thing.
I agree in terms of having a single point of control, but I don't see
how allowing free distribution hurts any of the GNU or BSD code. Yes,
it is a massive job and I don't object to having commercial versions.
I just wish some version could be turned over to the GNU project or
some other group that could maintain it in a form that is freely
available, even if it just did the basic file transfers without all
the new bells and whistles.
Les Mikesell
les@mcs.com